Nearly Crashed

"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit) 04/19/2018 at 13:37 • Filed to: caught on dashcam, ram cam, ram dashcam

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90% of the traffic turns left at this intersection. Hence the long line.

The HHR decided to join my 10% club without indicating.

ABS was had.

Had to DODGE at the last second.

The funniest part about this whole thing is last night I bragged on Facebook about being that asshole that’s passing everyone in the snow who was driving like slowpokes....

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 13:50

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It looks like you slid a bit. I love how this guy just STOPS. Makes no effort to try to get out of the way of the 2 ton vehicle sliding towards him. I honestly think some people are actively trying to die.

vicali > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 13:54

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Not a lane, you’re offside my friend.

https://jalopnik.com/behold-delicious-instant-karma-for-a-badly-behaving-kia-1825305478

Milky > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 13:54

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Those tractor trailers want to pass you! People that toddle along with 10 cars behind them irritate me. But since we’re being honest I’m the asshole that passes is the mostly not plowed lane.

Takuro Spirit > vicali 04/19/2018 at 14:00

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Physically a lane.

Road is no wider until the marked portion of the turn lane begins.

vicali > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 14:10

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You can physically drive down the other side of the street too, doesn’t make it legal. That turn lane starts where the paint is marked. You’re just passing cars on the right a block back - same as the Kia. 

Takuro Spirit > vicali 04/19/2018 at 14:26

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Crossing the double yellow is illegal, unless passing a stopped or slow moving vehicle.

Passing stopped cars via the shoulder/parking lane/unmarked lane is also legal.... and its an HHR.

vicali > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 14:42

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https://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2011/346/346.08.html

346.08

346.08 When overtaking and passing on the right permitted. The operator of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting the movement in safety and only if the operator can do so while remaining on either the roadway or a paved shoulder, and then only under the following conditions:

346.08(1)

(1) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn or U-turn; or

346.08(2)

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I’m going to say that doesn’t include putting tires in the snowbank to drive around a blocks worth of other cars. That HHR should’ve checked their 6 before they got the same bright idea, but you should’nt have been there either.

Takuro Spirit > vicali 04/19/2018 at 14:52

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I am aware of the laws and they favor my decision to pass.

The view is confusing, I’ll give you that, but I was not IN the snowbank. Even when I jogged right to avoid him I was not IN the snowbank.

There is enough pavement there for two cars... or trucks to pass by each other.

Myself and others do it every day.

I think the pissant in the HHR was just afraid to drive in the ‘snow’, and got sick of waiting.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 15:01

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Seems like a good lesson in defensive driving. Even if it was not snow covered, cold, and/or wet out; that would be a bad idea to do. Just charging in there at full speed assuming nobody will come into the lane. The assumption should always be that someone will jump out and try to ruin your day. Sure anyone jumping in is incredibly stupid to do so without looking or signaling and deserve a good honking and maybe the bird for being an idiot. But had you been going slower, there would have been a lot less drama/risk from the incident. Any amount of panic braking at any time is a failure in defensive driving as far as im concerned.

Urambo Tauro > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 15:02

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Yeah, that unmarked portion is awfully wide for just one lane...

Unmarked lane(s) = ~70 pixels wide (80 if you count the “gutter” next to the curb)
Marked left turn lane = ~40 pixels wide
Marked right turn/thru lane = ~50 pixels wide (closer to 60 if you count right up against the curb

So is it a valid lane or not? There seems to be plenty of room for a standard-width car (I dunno about a big rig though, if 18-wheelers are permitted on this street). Maybe that’s why they didn’t paint it as such.

But maybe we’re going about this the wrong way. Is that extra width there for curbside parking? If there are any “no parking” signs along that stretch, then I have to think that it was designed to be a lane of travel.

Takuro Spirit > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 04/19/2018 at 15:15

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Lesson taken.

Speed was less than 20mph, for the record. And much honking was had. First honking for the jumping out without looking/signal. And second honking for STOPPING and remaining in my path.

Takuro Spirit > Urambo Tauro 04/19/2018 at 15:27

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Curiously, there is only one NO PARKING sign in conjunction with the lane usage sign:

18 wheelers are permitted, and I have passed them no problem in the past when they are waiting to turn left. You can tell by the Impala there how much room there really is.

I think its more of an issue that sometime in the past the intersection was widened, turn lanes added, but the feeders to them were not widened or lengthed appropriately. You can see where the grass ends and the (wider street) brick begins.

To think that no one would use the shoulder to pass until the sign (unless someone is parked in it) is ridiculous, given the long line of cars waiting to turn left that is there EVERY morning and afternoon. So we all use it to pass. And today it nearly bit me for the first time in four years.

Long-Voyager > Milky 04/19/2018 at 15:48

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You’re not the one who almost lost it trying to use the unplowed lane to pass this morning on my way to work are you?

If it was you I would like to thank you for endangering the lives of everyone around you because your time is more important.

Urambo Tauro > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 16:03

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Man, that sign placement makes it a tough call. One one hand, it would seem to be reserving that space beyond the sign for moving traffic. And it’s doing so before the roadway becomes any wider, which would suggest that despite the lack of markings, they’re expecting side-by-side traffic after that point, even though the road width remains thee same.

But on the other hand, if a car is parked just in front of the sign, as far forward as legally possible, then the natural flow of traffic passing that parked car and merging over to the right would mean that they’d be moving diagonally -in the process of merging- and would not fully be in the right-most lane until the road actually widens to accept that second lane. So I can see how this could be interpreted as a buffer zone instead of two lanes.

The only thing that’s really clear is that if someone happens to be parked anywhere along that curb (before the sign), you’re outta luck Chuck when it comes to driving there.

Milky > Long-Voyager 04/19/2018 at 16:40

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I was not in Wisconsin this morning but I will add that I have been told my car is impervious to winter conditions because of my snow tires.

ttyymmnn > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 04/19/2018 at 16:52

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For me, there is nothing scarier than driving down a line of stopped traffic. I always go very slow for just this reason. I learned that lesson long, long ago when I almost picked up a motorcycle for a hood ornament. I was driving at highway speed (55 back then) past a line of cars backed up on a left lane exit when a motorcycle decided to bail out and reenter the left lane in front of me. It was as close as you can imagine it might have been. As far as I know, he was totally oblivious to what he had done.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Takuro Spirit 04/19/2018 at 16:54

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Its always hard to tell in these sort of videos, it could have been 40mph from that perspective lol. And of course armchair defensive driving is much easier anyways. I hate people that jump out in general. Stuff like exiting parking lots with the minimal possible gap and hopping into the far lane to avoid being run into. That shit is infuriating because I would NEVER do that since I do not trust the oncoming traffic to stay in their lanes. No point in doing any lane manuevering unless you are 100% sure the space is free. It just makes no sense to me.

Long-Voyager > Milky 04/20/2018 at 07:00

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That’s what the guy in the truck thought. Then he was sideways in the left lane staring at the side of a semi. That was the point he realized why everyone around him was only travelling at 65mph.

Milky > Long-Voyager 04/20/2018 at 11:25

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TBH I really only do that when that lane is traveling 30-40mph on the expressway. Or slower. Its always some slow person with their hazards on like we don’t know its snowing. 65 is plenty fast enough.

Long-Voyager > Milky 04/20/2018 at 12:18

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Carry on then, I do the same in those instances.